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pain. can i get my aleve back? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap. good morning. i'm chris jansing. overnight a reversal in two big court cases with huge political implications. one is on abortion in texas. the other, stop and frisk in new york city. a third of abortion clinics in texas may close as early as this morning because of a new federal appeals court ruling. it puts tough new restrictions back in place after they were found unconstitutional on monday. in new york, an earlier stop and frisk ruling said that the stops were unconstitutional and violated the rights of minorities. well, now that ruling has been postponed, and the court case is going to have to start over. we'll get to those stories in just a minute, but there is also this. a $5 billion cut to the food
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stamps program kicks in today. it will impact 47 million americans. that's one out of every seven who need help to get enough food. mostly children. at food banks, there's panic. the number of people who need help is growing and there's less to give. chris hayes ran this emotional sound on "all in." >> sometimes she tell me she's hungry and i have nothing to give her, so it's very hard. you know, when you just have milk and you have to warm it and give a child who's 6 and the next morning she go to school without food. >> i need the food pantry in order to survive and feed my three children. it's really hard to get a job out there, even though i have all the qualifications, they still don't hire people. >> the cut is automatic. it was built into the 2009 stimulus bill and expires today. steeper cuts could be on the way. house republicans want to cut $39 billion from the program
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over the next ten years. democrats are outraged. >> so what these guys are doing are really going to war against seniors, against the kids, against working families who are trying to get buy on $9, $10 an hour. >> it's a disgrace that in the 21st century we would be cutting these types of programs. >> first of all, this is a moral disgrace. this is not the american way. people deserve to eat. many people go through challenges in their lives. the majority of people on snap, food stamp benefits, actually are working. they're part of the working poor. >> i want to bring in our company, the "washington post" columnist, dana milbank, manu raju from politico. good morning, guys. >> good morning. >> what's this shaping up to look like, dana? how big a battle is this going to be? >> it's been an ongoing battle for a long period of time, not just in the stimulus but also in the farm bill, also with the
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sequestration. and, you know, it goes back to remember during the campaign when newt gingrich talked about this being the food stamp president and republicans have taken on this issue like it's a second phase of welfare reform. in a way, welfare reform worked because there was this safety net of food. now if you're actually going to make people go hungry and the impression that you're going after abusers of the program, they're going to wind up hurting a lot of kids and a lot of older folks. >> in fact let me go through some of the stats because they're very instructive. 87% of food stamp recipients are in homes with kids, seniors or people with disabilities. more than one in four children live in households that get food stamps. we're also talking about 900,000 veterans. it looks like things, obviously, just from the sound you heard, from the statistics we're telling you, it's only going to get worse. manu, considering congress has just started working on a farm bill, you see the numbers there.
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$4 billion in cuts. contrast that to the republican house, $39 billion. where are we in this. >> it's the biggest dividing line between the house and the senate. right now there's a conference committee that's meeting to try to reconcile the differences between these two versions. you know, democrats are insisting that there have to be some restoration to this program, but i don't think they're going to be able to get anything nearly as generous as what was included in the senate's plan. if anything, they'll split the difference. but chris, even if they did split the difference, prospects in the house are very uncertain, given the opposition from the right, from a lot of groups like heritage action, folks who have really pushed republicans hard against expanding the food stamp program. right now the prospects are unclear, but there is some hope that at least the conference committee could reach a deal in the coming weeks. >> they make an economic argument obviously that this program has gotten out of control. dana, economists have found for
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every dollar in snap spending, it generates $1.70 for the local economy. if food stamps get cut, it's going to hurt grocery stores. 250,000 of them, the drivers who make the deliveries, the people who work there. is there a strong economic argument on the democratic side that we haven't heard that much? >> well, there's a strong argument as this as there has been with other stimulus programs but the republicans are not convinced of that and they say that's not justification, the economic growth argument. they have opposed it going back to 2008. so i don't think the democrats are going to convince them with that or with the human suffering. and we are looking at some sort of a decline in this -- in this program over time. the program had been built up, of course, because of economic hardship. that's why we heard all about this food stamp when in fact this was a natural reaction to what's going on in the economy.
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>> you do wonder if there's a soc sociological component. rich people think the economy is doing just fine. a survey by the american affluence research center with households with net worths exceeding $800,000, found that the rich feel better than better tha than everyone else because the stock market has climbed. >> i think it depends on what members are hearing from the constituents in their districts. if they represent folks in more affluent areas, of course they're going to be less inclined to support an expansion or restoration to this program. that's kind of the difficulty here in getting a coalition of folks who represent folks who demand the program be restored
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and people who don't really quite see it as that imperative. that's really the problem, i think, going forward in the next few weeks here. >> i want to bring in congresswoman sheila jackson lee a democrat from texas. congresswoman, good morning. >> good morning, chris. thank you for having me this morning. >> i know you are among the members of congress who took the snap challenge. what did you find? how tough is it to eat on $1.50 per meal, which is the average? >> chris, last evening was halloween and today texas families and american families are waking up to a nightmare. it is frankly a nightmare to try to live off of the snap dollars, as many families do. and if they did not have it, they would have nothing. i wound up with a banana and some processed meat. i think i had -- was able to get a boiled egg. i was able to get a small bottle of orange juice, but this is for ongoing entire time that you'd be getting less fruit, less
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vegetables, certainly no protein, difficult to get eggs, difficult to get milk. this is really an extreme and ridiculous response from a nation that has been known around the world to be the great, if you will, humanitarian. and here we are with families, 47 million living in poverty. republicans offering a nightmarish bill of $39 billion to $40 billion in snap cuts. and today $5 billion are lost. families are losing $36 a day. i will be going to my food banks today, target hunger and the houston food bank asking for the community to give more resources. really what i'm going to be asking, chris, we can pass hr-3108 right now. if the senate will take up a bill that would extend the benefits, just extend the benefits while we're in the middle of this conference, the house could take it up and the president can sign it. and it's borrowing from peter to
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pay paul, i understand that. but right now you would fill in the gap for these families that are experiencing a nightmarish experience and one more point -- >> and you believe it would pass? >> i believe it should pass. it should pass. this conference -- we don't know how long the conference is going to go. how do you overcome a mountain of $40 billion cut that is in the house bill? you know, this is why we shut the day down, let me not say the democrats shut the house down, but we caused the bill not to go forward with the congressional black caucus and other members initially. we stopped them from moving forward on the $40 billion cut. >> you know what the republican argument has been, that the safety net was never meant to be forever, that people need to work. i want you to listen to some sound that we have for you. >> asking people to work in return for food stamp programs is not any form of cruel or unusual punishment. the dignity of work has long been a pretty common theme throughout all the ages. >> there is dignity in work.
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the reforms made by this bill will put people on the path to self sufficiency and independence. >> what do you say to them, congresswoman? >> they're living in a dream world and they're putting americans, hard-working americans in a nightmare. i looked at the statistics in my district alone. 70% of the people getting food stamps are working people. it's the working poor. they have children in their household, one, two, three, four. their grandmothers are taking care of the children of their children, either deceased, sick or with a number of other problems. it pains my heart, it really does, that people are speaking from high mountaintops and failing to look down in the valley. there is no one that i've come across in my congressional district or elsewhere that is begging to be on food stamps. they are there because they need. to they're there because they're providing children the opportunity to go to school with
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a sense of grounding that they had an evening dinner and that these children can have a better opportunity. this is a prices right now. and when you ask the question about hr-3108, this is what you do in the legislative process. you determine that something is a priority. you put aside your special interests, your ire, your disagreement and you say, look, let's get a temporary fix. this bill is only extending the present status quo, meaning that the amount of money that was in the food stamps, extend it for a year and it can be put on the floor of the house and the senate. the president can sign it while we battle it out. so you put something forward as a priority. >> let me ask you something real quick about what's going on in your state of texas, switching gears here. that ruling on apportion. woesd at t we said that an appeals court overruled the lower court. that means the tough restrictions are back in place and doctors performing abortions must have admitting privileges to a hospital. what's your reaction to that ruling? >> chris, i served on the judiciary committee now for a
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number of years and from the very time that i walked into a republican-controlled congress, they were talking about undermining the rights of women, the right to privacy. shame on the fifth circuit. shame on a court that was years ago looked upon as a court of equal opportunity and a supporter of individual rights and civil rights. it is a disgrace. what we're grinding in the state of texas is that rural areas where there's little access to health care in texas, and that is something the world should know. we're a sophisticated state with the texas medical center, but when you go in places outside of the urban centers, when you go to the valley, there are women who have no access to health care. there are women who are standing in line, had appointments. they were in crisis and now i am frightened for these women's lives and what they might do. this court said that you could continue this dastardly law while the process is appealing and of course the dastardly law
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is that it's shutting down numbers of clinics because they're not within a 30 to 45-mile radius of an admitting facility like a hospital. these clinics have never been charged with any failure of duty in terms of the care they were giving these women. many of these women do not have access to care as it relates to their own personal needs. they have children at home. they're working. there are reasons that they are in crisis at this point. i'm hoping that this can have an emergency hearing before the fifth circuit and ask for a rehearing and i'm asking that it gets immediately to the court. while we're saying that, chris, people's lives are in jeopardy. women's lives are in jeopardy. shame on this court. shame on the republicans. shame on this governor of the state of texas, and we will continue to fight against this dastardly law. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee, thank you very much. and to dana milbank and manu raju as well. was the obama campaign considering replacing joe biden with hillary clinton on the 2012
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ticket? it appears so. in the new book "double down" it's said obama's chief of staff at the time was actively pushing the idea. in the end the research showed it didn't move the polls enough to justify the move. also in that book mitt romney seriously considered chris christie for vice president. the new jersey governor was apparently ruled out because of unanswered questions about his background and, quote, health concerns. there's also new data on the number of people who signed up for obama care on day one. are these numbers a sign of trouble or what was expected? we'll talk about it and what it means for the white house as well as the uninsured and the fight against the rollout with the republican national committee chair, reince priebus, next. when you vote for flo, we'll have discounts. ice-cream discounts. multi-cookie discounts. pizza loyalty discounts! [ kids chanting "flo!" ] i also have some great ideas on car insurance.
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released by house republicans. the documents show only six people were able to enroll on day one, 248 on day two, completed through healthcare.gov which has been plagued by bugs in the system. the white house has said it did anticipate a slow start. let me bring in the chair of the republican national committee, reince priebus. good morning. >> hey, good morning, chris. >> the administration points out that early enrollment in romney care got a slow start in massachusetts as well. 123 people signed up the first month, for example. do we need to just give this thing a chance? >> well, i mean it's certainly -- i think everyone agrees that the rollout has been a disaster. the waste of money put into this website is a mess and clearly people are frustrated and they can't sign up for something. >> well, i don't know if it's a waste of money. they are fixing it. >> okay. so i guess i would concede that eventually i would imagine this website is going to get fixed. so i mean i get that part.
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i think the bigger issues that we are going to face are, number one, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are certainly being cancelled by their insurance companies when they were promised by the president that that wouldn't happen. >> i want to start with that because i want to be fair about that. the people who are getting these notices, first of all, they have to be offered another plan. and the reason that they're getting these notices is because they don't have hospitalization, they don't have maternity care, they have sky-high deductibles. these are for people whose plans, as david firestone put it in the "new york times" op-ed don't work. republicans were furious that government would dare to intrude on an insurance company's freedom to offer a terrible product to desperate people. >> well, first of all, i think it's pretty clear that the president said repeatedly that if you like your insurance plan, you're going to be able to keep it. now firestone and "new york times" put aside, the fact is that's what people were told,
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and i think that was part of the reason why some of the vitriol against the plan may have been tampered. but when the president made that promise, i think it's reasonable for people to expect to be able to keep their plan. but that's not even what pimigh be the worst thing that's going to happen. what's going to happen next is people will sign up for the exchanges and they're going to find out that they're going to pay even more money than what they were just dropped for and they might even get a worse plan for what they were dropped for and then the next thing that's going to happen is that young people and healthy people are not going to sign up in the exchanges. number one, they can't currently but if they tried to and if they got on, obviously they wouldn't be able to sign up. and then the overall prices would skyrocket -- >> let me tell you what the white house would say to that. number one, a lot of people -- >> i know what they're saying but nothing is coming true. >> but you're making -- your
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reasoning is speculative. there are tax subsidies for a lot of the people whose prices may initially come out high. their tax subsidies available. let me play for you what jay carney said this morning to your point about young people and whether they'll sign up. >> there's a silver lining here when it comes to young people an young people are important to this working. it was always the case, no matter how good the website was going to be, that young americans were going to be the last group to sign up. i don't know about you in college or everything i did when i was young as last minute. >> well, i'm with jay carney on that one to the extent that i was a procrastinator and never wrote my paper until the last paper. does he have a point, though, we don't know right now that the accusations you're making are speculative? >> here's what we know, chris. and i think we can find common ground here. we know that we were promised that this website would be working great and it's not and it is a total mess. >> and the white house would concede that. >> we know that the president
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promised -- okay, fine. they keep saying and they keep saying. we know that the president promised that people would be able to keep their health insurance if they liked their plan and that's not happening. we know the president promised that you'd be able to keep your doctor, and we know that 40% of the doctors are now saying that they're not going t take part in these exchanges. so i get it. jay carney is talking, the president is talking, it's a lot of talk. but what people are seeing and the reason why they're losing in this neighborhood afternoon, and clearly you have to concede that they are losing in this narrative, is because the truth and the reality is that people are feeling a lot of pain and the law is not being carried out the way that they were promised. and it's showing across the country. >> i don't know how to measure who's winning or losing the narrative except by the polls. our new nbc news/wall street journal poll finds that feelings toward republicans have hit another all-time law. 22% and 53% negative. >> i hear you, chris.
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i mean all of that aside, we can't escape the fact that this law's rollout is a disaster. people are being cancelled of their insurance policies when they were promised they wouldn't. i think the next thing that's going to happen, the premiums wi will skyrocket because young people aren't going to sign up. and democrat senators that are running for re-election want to delay because they don't want to face the people that are being affected by the law because they want to win their election. that should tell you everything you need to know about what's going on here and how people are perceiving it. the president's numbers are in the tank. clearly, i'll give you people are sick and tired of washington. it goes for republicans, washington, the president. >> his approval rating is double the republican party. >> it's a classic example of what they're tired of. they're tired of politicians like the president making promises they can't read. >> a headline reads the obama sabotage campaign. it argues that some of the problems with healthcare.gov have to do with the roadblocks
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put in place by republicans. most republican governors declined to create their own insurance exchange and in fact 36 exchanges, far more than intended. the tea party patriots website suggested that since washington was not equipped to handle so many exchanges, quote, both financially and otherwise this means the entire law could implode on itself. is there a little bit of disingenuousness to hammer the obama administration for problems that they clearly wanted to happen and wanted to contribute to? >> well, i don't think the website not being able to sign up six people is a problem with republicans not liking obama care. >> well, it is with 36 states not setting up their own exchanges. >> tens of millions of dollars on a website that doesn't work. it has nothing to do with the tea party patriots. it has to do with incompetency at hhs and a president who is
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totally aloof, doesn't know what's going on and finds out his news at the same time you and i do. that's the problem. reading speeches written by somebody else, making promises to the american people that they buy into and then only to find out that all of those promises aren't true, that's not on the tea party patriots, that's on the president of the united states. >> reince priebus, always good to see you, thank you. halloween night was wet, windy and dangerous for a lot of folks across the country and it turned deadly in nashville after a 9-year-old boy was killed after strong storms brought down power lines. in kansas, that same storm knocked over a school bus thursday afternoon. the driver was sent to the hospital, but all nine kids on board did get out safely. this string of rough weather is making its way through new york city right now in the area around us. delays up to three hours at la guardia. also expected at some of the other major airports in the northeast. >> if you have heard him recite the pledge, he skips "under
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god." never says those two words, "under god." >> sometimes your family gives you more than you bargained for. ted cruz, is he feeling that way right now? you'll understand why after you'll hear what his father had to say about president obama. you're watching "jansing & co." on msnbc. [ female announcer ] you tweeted, posted and cheered about yoplait's fall favorites. so we brought pumpkin pie and apple crisp back for a limited time. see? you really do call the shots. ♪ yoplait. it is so good. ♪ i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time.
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well, did you know the ancient pyramids were actually a mistake? uh-oh. geico. fifteen minutes could save you...well, you know. have you heard the comments from ted cruz's dad? incendiary statements about president obama. mother jones posted video of rafael cruz speaking to a tea party group saying this about the president. >> we have to unmask this man. this is a man that seeks to destroy all concept of god, and i'll tell you why. this is classical marxist philosophy. karl marx very clearly said
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marxism require that say we destroy god because government must become god. we have our work cut out for us. we need to send barack obama back to chicago. i'd like to send him back to kenya. >> joining me now, democratic strategist, daniellela gibbs leger. is this just a series of horrible comments by one man or do you think this is part of something bigger in our country these days? >> i think it's both, unfortunately. you hear a lot of these sentiments echoed by a lot of the fringe members of the republican party and the tea party. so it's not surprising that you heard these words coming out of his mouth. what is surprising is that, you know, yes, he is ted cruz's father, he's not in the senate himself. but ted cruz uses him as a surrogate.
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rafael cruisz has sat down and discussed strategy on how to win latinos over to the republican party with groups such as heritage. so it's somebody that is a surrogate for ted cruz and the republican party so this isn't really helping them with their whole rebranding thing that they're trying to have going on. >> well, she does bring up a good point. you have a number of republicans including steve stockman and senator jim enhoff, michele bachmann has said the house could consider impeachment of president obama. what does this mean for your party looking ahead to 2016. >> it's not helpful today and i've been a campaign manager on several campaigns where i get a phone call from a family member and said, chip, i made some comments we may need to talk about. never helpful when a family member goes way off the talking points and says something like this.
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i agree with daniellea a little bit. this happens at the end of bush's term when they call him a racist and compared him to adolf hitler. this doesn't help the country and doesn't help the party that's doing it. as we're trying to move past closing down the government, i think we need to stay on the issues as close as possible. >> do you think ted cruz said, dad, we've all been there probably at one thing or another, dad, you went too far or do you think that, frankly, he pretty much agrees with him? >> no, no, i'm sure he's had a conversation with his dad since that and said, dad, it's not helping. >> i'm not so sure. >> this is a day we take off the story. we're not talking about the issues of obama care, we're not talking about government funding or a $17 tril january debt, we're talking about a senator's father that made comments a year ago that's not helpful to the cause. >> i heard you say you're not so sure. >> no, i'm not. i think there are some republicans, and i think ted cruz is one of them, they are
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trying to energize and excite their base in any way that they can. and again, there are a segment of republicans who subscribe to this notion that somehow this president isn't a christian or he isn't truly american. so i think there are people who think it's helpful to have other people out there saying this stuff to keep their base riled up as they are in here in d.c. trying to shut down the government and all these other unpopular tactics. >> i also wonder sort of this big picture question, chip. when did it become okay to stop respecting the office at least? when did it become okay, you know, to suggest that the president gets deported? i mean i think political disagreement is what this country was founded on, but it does seem a lack of respect has extoday latd exponentially in the last of years. >> unfortunately, i agree with you. this has been a slow deterioration. some of the things that were said about president bush in his last couple of years are horrible. some of the things said about president obama are horrible. ike he's a christian, i think
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he's an american. i disagree with him on probably 99% of the things he wants to but you can have a civil discussion when you have these things. when you go outside the lines, it doesn't help, not even a little bit. >> chip, daniella, good to see both of you. thank you. if you read only one thing this morning, such an interesting story in "the new york times" about bullying. when should parents stay out of it and when do they get involved? let me take a premise from the article and you can tell me what you think. the author wrote, quote, when one of my sons was being pushed around by a bigger kid in middle school he popped the kid back and that was the end of it. while i wasn't aware of the situation until afterward, there have been times that i counselled them to do just that, hit the jerk back and shut him up. is that good advice? check out my must read and let me know. you guys are saying,dale wrote retaliation in any situation of assault, verbal or physical, in like kind is legit. it's called defending yourself. nobody is obligated to sit back, silent and immobile, while some
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idiot pummels you. cindy had this to say. it's a power play. that's what i told my own kids who have been great about defending friends and peers from bullies. i have tried to demonstrate the inherently pathetic position of the bullies, explaining that it is learned behavior and that their followers will turn on them in a heartbeat. go on to our facebook page, facebook/jansingco and join the conversation. ♪ ♪ hey [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up, to be the world's best sports sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪ something like a phenomenon, baby ♪ ♪ you're something like a phenomenon ♪ [ male announcer ] the cadillac ats, 2013 north american car of the year.
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♪ checking the news feed this morning, the secretary of defense is calling out the nine states that refused to issue military i.d.s to sake-sex spouses of national guard members. chuck hagel told the antidefamation league, quote, this is wrong and it causes division among the ranks. john kerry, now the most senior administration official, to say that in some cases nsa spying has gone too far. the secretary of state was speaking to a conference in london via video link. his comments come as youahoo!
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google, facebook, microsoft and aol unite against nsa spying. they all signed on to a letter urging top senate letters to reform and increase oversight of spying programs. every time we see one of these drug tunnels under the u.s. and members can border, they seem to get more elaborate. this was six football fields long with an electric railroad. they seized cocaine and 17,000 pounds of pot. just when you think you've seen it all, there is this. pumpkins stuffed with cocaine. police in canada say they caught a woman trying to take three pumpkins hollowed out on a plane. upon further inspection they found four and a half pounds of coke inside. lots of bleary-eyed apple fans this morning. they had to get up and get in line early to get their hands on the new ipad air. cnbc's mandy drury is here with what's moving your money. we had one of our producers who took a picture of the line in
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the very wee hours of the morning. what's going on, mandy? >> yeah, the retail store sales started at 8:00 a.m. this morning and of course you'd have to line up to be out there in the front of the line. it's unclear just how many of these new ipads that apple is expected to sell in this launch weekend, but last november you might remember that apple reported initial sales of three million ipads in the first three days, which was twice the 1.5 million that it sold during the third generation launch in march. so -- and guess what, we're not even the first here in the united states. the new ipad already arrived first in places like australia, obviously my home country, and in the biggest global rollout launch yet for an apple tablet, it is headed to 41 other countries. according to c-net while initial online sales in various other places just after midnight local time was popular, it only sold out in hong kong. so we'll just have to wait and see until next week what kind of numbers we get in the launch
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weekend. >> meanmeantime, there is good, here we are on the heels of halloween and way too much candy consumed, something about that combination of sweet and salty and that's what's behind frito-lay's new chip. >> it's probably my two favorite things rolled into one, the chocolate covered potato chip. lay's is rolling it out next week. >> that looks good. >> and apparently there's a lot of consumer demand for these so-called flavor matchups, the salt and the sweet. it costs about $3.49 for a five-ounce bag and according to symphony iri, some 43% of consumers now snack three to four times daily. that seems like a lot to me, versus 24% back in 2009. but, chris, before you jump up and down and get all excited about this, apparently the rollout is limited. they'll only be sold at target and also it's just a test for a time, only during the holidays.
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obviously the usual deal, if it's a major hit, it could become a permanent thing on the shelves. >> there's a target 100 blocks from me. >> perfect. >> so i could walk it off on the way home. >> you could justify eating three bags. speaking of food, forbes is out with its top food trends of 2014. making the top five, octopus, which some say will replace prawns. lobster rolls also trending this year. designer deviled eggs. snow cream, a mix between snow cones and ice cream, and tiny desserts presented in shot glasses. i don't know anything about cupcakes, but if that's your favorite or any other kind of tiny dessert, tweet u us @jansingco. it's not the "i only earn decent rewards at the gas station" card. it's the no-games, no-signing up, everyday-rewarding, kung-fu-fighting, silver-lightning-in-a-bottle, bringing-home-the-bacon cash back card.
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hate singing happy birthday? you may wish to rethink. a new study shows that performing a ritual before eating, such as singing happy birthday before diving into a slice of cake, makes the food taste better. researchers suggest that when we do a ritual before eating, we are more mindful of what we eat. in just about three hours, president obama will meet with iraqi prime minister in the oval office. he is expected to appeal for more u.s. help to fight insurgent violence. this year alone look at these statistics. the state department says at least 6,000 iraqis have been killed in attacks. joining me to talk about it, former u.s. ambassador to morocco, marc ginsberg. good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> you know their government refused to let u.s. troops remain in their country so what options does the u.s. have? what kind of assistance can
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president obama provide? >> the most important thing is to understand that al maliki is not part of the solution, he is part of the problem. he as imprisoned many sunnis, he has arrested political opponents who are sunni and driven them into the hands of al qaeda by in effect using his own paramilitary forces not only against them but against the iranian political refugees who the united states has pledged to protect. so here he is hat in hand, coming to the white house for assistance, and yet he himself is the reason why this violence has escalated. >> well, let's talk about iran a little bit because it was interesting. al maliki wrote an op-ed for "the new york times" today and the word "iran" was not in there once. analysts will be watching closely to see whether president obama leverages his influence over the iraqi leader that many are calling a puppet of the iranian regime. what is the conversation likely to be like? >> interesting enough, al maliki
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would like to present himself as the mediator between things iran and the united states. he has been facilitating arms transfers from iran into syria in violation of u.n. resolutions. he has been providing navy intelligence to the iranian government to forces in the persian gulf and escalated the shiite terrorism occurring in syria himself. so for him to come in and ask for this assistance, it's important for the united states and the president to impose conditions. one, he has to guarantee the protection of the inhabitants of camp liberty. two, he has to stop these shipments of arms from iran to syria. and three, he has to permit sunnis to come back in the government and reconcile the role that sunnis need to play in iraq or else the sectarian violence will cause a complete meltdown in iraq. >> realistically do we have the
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leverage to make that happen? >> he needs these arms and that's the best leverage we have. after years of treasure and blood lost in iraq, the best we can do is leverage our arms transfers to him. >> let me ask you finally to give us your overall assessment of iraq right now and where you think things are headed? >> it is going from bad to worse. there's going to be a 2014 election in which you'd like to emerge -- he would like to emerge from the white house claiming that he's the preferred candidate for the president. the only way to prevent the sectarian violence from imploding in iraq further is to have a reconciliation and a democratic process restored in iraq, which is going to be key. that's the best thing that we can hope for at this point in time and malaki is not the solution, he's definitely the problem. time for politics now and a big moment for one of our own on the small screen. this sunday, yep, that's msnbc's rachel maddow making a guest
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it was five years ago this month that then senator barack obama made history, becoming the first african-american to be elected president. here's this week's flashback friday.
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>> from tears to cheers and high emotion at chicago's grant park, america elects its first african-american president, senator barack obama, now president-elect obama. >> tonight because of what we did on this day in this election at this defining moment, change has come to america. >> i'm chris jansing. welcome to msnbc's continuing live coverage of an incredible decision 2008. >> i never visualized that one day an african-american would be president of the united states during my lifetime. >> obama's win was broad, it was deep, it cut across every corner of this united states. >> he spoke to the heart of america. he spoke to the hopes of the country. and he inspired people in a way that was very, very profound. >> only 40 years ago, blacks got the right to vote. >> just four years ago barack obama was a state senator from illinois. now before that crowd of 125,000
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supporters and watched by the world, he spoke as america's president-elect, celebrating his historic victory. >> those who tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people. yes, we can. thank you. god bless you. and may god bless the united states of america. >> five years ago this month. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." i'm chris jansing, thomas roberts, watch what you say. what is he doing? >> on this day in hairstory. i doodle and make up doodles. >> can i just say -- >> hairstory. >> patrick is such a nice guy. i've never understood what he sees in you. >> i need to come up with a theme song for you. you know i love you. >> could you try to show it once in a while. >> it's friday. it's payday friday. >> i'm going to have to start to
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vet these. >> you'll have to take my pen away from me. hairstory. chris, thanks so much. bombshell new revelations in the 2012 version of game change. did the white house and the insiders there seriously consider swapping out vice president joe biden for then secretary of state hillary clinton? our agenda panel will weigh in on all the juicy details on that one. plus a major slap in the face for opponents of new york city's controversial stop and kri frisk program. we're going to talk about what it all means with russell simmons' political director michael skolnick and the creator of the brosurance ads, they're going to join us. see that ad? they have gone viral, they have got the attention of lawmakers on the hill but are they getting the people they want? the young swiinvincibles to actually buy into obama care? that and much more coming up. and john hughes jumped into normandy... and john anderson hughes
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to obama care? republicans in congress are all about numbers these days. gop members have released new documents showing just six people successfully enrolled on the first day of the new health care exchange. now, six the first day, just 248 more by day two and according to an aide for these republican committee members, a laundry list of issues kept people from getting on the site and getting the job done. >> we're working every day to make improvements to this wholly unsatisfactory website. i want to make clear nobody is more unsatisfied with the way that website has performed since the launch than the president of the united states. but we're working every day to improve it. >> so there is new evidence of a growing group within the president's own party that they are revolting against the problems plaguing the health care rollout. "the new york times" reporting there's worry about the impact against democratic candidates in next year's elections. >> democrat senators that are ruin

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